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OutsidePride.com's Possible Website Redesign?

Just an idea. Seems like it would fit into their company values... What do you think Troy Hake? Does it work for you?

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I'm just saying.


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By Blogger LeLo in NoPo, at 8/9/06 7:14 PM

I particularly like the burning cross touch. Is that a perennial or an annual?    

By Blogger Gavin S., at 8/9/06 9:12 PM

No doubt a perennial :) The Sassy Gardener would know best though. *wink*    

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/9/06 10:50 PM

Is this the Oregon powerlifter's dad?    

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/9/06 11:14 PM

Maybe one of these guys:


would want to do a follow-up story, with featuring the website redesign??    

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/06 7:46 AM

Its their business they can say what they want. You may not like it but you are doing the same thing just on the otherside, I'm sure there are those who disagree but that is because its contrary to your personal views.

I don't agree with them by the way but they should be allowed..    

By Anonymous Steven, at 8/10/06 9:00 AM

Ah! I'm so glad people are seeing this! I got his email in my box and I was like WTF? Consumerist has Troy's email btw... troyh@outsidepride.com.

Funny that most of their customers are likely folks that can't get their specialty plants, aka suburban and urban folks that garden... you connect the dots from there :)    

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/06 8:17 PM

Send an email to Outside Pride's hosting company Rackspace explaining that they violated the terms of the acceptable use policy (http://www.rackspace.com/aboutus/legal/aup.php, see offensive content section) the email is abuse@rackspace.com. Also, head over Dave's Garden (a gardening site) and post a negative review. I saw that the site will delete your comment if you don't say that you ordered from OP, so you may have to make up something. http://davesgarden.com/gwd/c/1903/    

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/11/06 12:36 PM

Its their business they can say what they want.

Not exactly. Sending unwanted political messages to their consumer mailing list is not legal. Furthermore, Outsidepride.com is in direct violation of their own privacy policy.

We will never sell your email address, phone number, or any other information to a third party. We respect your privacy and the reason you placed your trust in our company by giving us your information. You information is simply used to process your order and update you if there is a problem with your order. You will never receive any other literature from us unless you place another order with our company. We will also not sell your addresses to any other companies.

This is in direct violation of FTC policy and needs to be reported.

Oh, and I assume you meant "it's" when you wrote "its."    

By Blogger Jenn Stewart, at 8/11/06 12:43 PM

It is their business and they CAN say what they want. They simply have to deal with the repercussions.

So glad to know we have an editor to correct use of punctuation.    

By Anonymous paynbow, at 8/12/06 11:15 PM

Actually, their business is selling gardening supplies. The people on the mailing list only subscribed to hear about the latest flowers. Mr. Hake's stance on homosexuality was, last I checked, not some kind of rare flower. He sent an unsolicited email about his "opinion" [read: bigotry] to people who were expecting the latest news on late-bloomers.

Go here and read his letter: http://stoney321.livejournal.com/177578.html#cutid1

It's full of crap, much like the soil he should have been selling.    

By Blogger carlrye, at 8/13/06 10:23 PM

It is Mr. Hakes right to voice his opinion. Now the question I have is why is he a bigot for stating his opinion? He does not think sexually explicit material should be on tv on prime time. Did you not read his letter? He mentioned 3 shows that had homosexual content. Now stating that is not bigotry. I am sure he like I would not want any sexual material on prime time when you want to see a show with your kids. The left is so full of hate that free speech is only for them and no one else.

Thank God that there is still a majority of us that are not vengeful violent hateful types. Because that is not what I see in the so called peaceful left.    

By Blogger Gavin S., at 8/13/06 10:30 PM

"Carlrye" - you can spin it however you'd like. Mr. Hake only seems to have a problem with gay or lesbians kissing on TV. He had no business using his customer database to send out an email to what he claims is tens of thousands. As you see above it is in direct violation of his privacy policy.

It is simply his hate for gays and lesbians. It's bigotry. Is it ok for kids to see heterosexuals kissing on TV? If not you and the rest of the "majority" should turn your TV's off right this second. You can't go a single night without seeing it. You even see it on television shows aimed at preteens. So give it a rest and take your crusade somewhere else.

Your so-called majority is rapidly becoming a minority.    

By Blogger carlrye, at 8/14/06 12:34 AM


It is now wounder that veiwer ship is down on all the major networks. It is the crap they keep trying to jam down our throats and yes that includes violence.

Hake only said the gays and lesbians because that is all that was on.

The hate you say we all have for gays is only in existance in your mind. You are so hate filled you do not understand how anyone can not be. The hate and vile coming from the left is really unbelievable.

There is no crusade, oh wait there is on your side. The crusade to shove your beliefs down our throats. Sorry I do not swallow it even if you do.

Sorry but the majority is not becoming a minority just look at what the votes go to. Oh that is another subject that you all spew hate on. haha.    

By Blogger Gavin S., at 8/14/06 9:23 AM

Great response. I don't even need to respond to it. Your views are so out of line with mainstream America, that people who read your comments will see them for what they are--garbage.    

By Anonymous Ryan Kennedy, at 9/17/06 9:09 PM

My email to Troy:

This is not your typical response to a newsletter from Outsidepride.com, Inc. In fact, this is the first one I have ever sent. I apologize for cluttering your inbox with an unsolicited email; however you are free to avoid future emails like this by keeping your bigotry and intolerance to yourself.

I want to share with you my online news reading experience the other night. I think you will find the only individuals who agreed with you and actually went to www.cbs.com to the bottom of the page, clicked the feedback link and expressed their opinion, were bitter, hateful, mindless individuals just like you. I know you thought the vast majority of your customers would agree with you as all polls conducted by Pat Robertson indicate, but the truth is that the majority of Americans are content to allow individuals to practice their own lives with the concept of liberty, unimpeded by whether your neighbor believes it is "morally wrong" to drive an SUV that gets poor gas mileage, because a.) it's your right to choose how you live your life, and b.) it doesn't affect anyone else.

If you and your wife sat down to watch television the other night with your children and were expecting to find wholesome family television, perhaps you should have tuned to the Disney Channel or The Weather Channel. If you were exposing your children to "Cold Case" and "Without A Trace" and expected to encounter "wholesome family television," you are kidding yourself about being a responsible parent. Just to pick one episode out of a hat: Cold Case 9/28/03 — This debut episode opens at a teen pool party while parents are away. In the cold case under investigation, a teenager had killed a girl while his brother watched. There are many explicit references to illicit sexual relationships and to masturbation. But you would probably condone this a "wholesome family television" because there was no homosexual content, correct?

Now, I am NOT trying to bash bigots; however, I feel bigotry is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society. Emails are being written as I am writing this to "highlight" the need for more bigotry in our society. There are teachers who have been asked to promote bigotry by sending emails to prime time television producers because a fertilizer salesman apparently gets to define "normal" behavior. If "normal behavior" was the requirement, civilization would have ceased to have any artists, musicians, intellectuals, and anyone who operated outside of "the norm" thousands of years ago. The world would still be flat; the sun would still revolve around the earth, and Christianity itself would never have existed, because at it's inception, it was not "the norm".

Yes, procreation takes a man and a woman. But if procreation is the absolute one and only purpose to life, then why do we have television at all? And why are you hocking lawn mowers? This behavior is not conducive to procreation and should be stopped at all cost! Right?

There may have been literally tens of thousand of readings of your email, but only YOU are receiving this reply. I am tired of the way people say, "I'm not a bigot, but..." and then proceed to spew bigotry and intolerance en masse, and I wanted to let you know! It took much more than one minute of my time, but if it can help even one bigot admit their shortsightedness, then it has been well worth my time. It is time the minority of bigots realized that the majority actually doesn't care one way or another since it doesn't affect them. You can quote nifty sayings like, "In God We Trust," but the truth of the matter is that the founding fathers would cringe at your intolerance for the vast differences among the citizenry, and would have completely disagreed with your promotion of totalitarianism.

Thank you for your time,

Ryan Kennedy
Concerned Citizen    

By Anonymous Kenneth Wood, at 11/17/07 9:05 AM

Two Homosexual-Friendly Post-Modern Folk Tales

I'm writing to let you know today I've finished work on a new
post-modern folk tale, geared for an audience that is friendly
toward homosexuality. Even though I myself am heterosexual,
I care and I think I can write something to help homosexual liberation.
The story is called "Marigold's Moles", and it complements my
first post-modern folk tale, "Two Princes". Like the first story,
it features two main characters who are homosexual and fall in love
(rather than the traditional prince and damsel-in-distress) .
You can find it on my website, http://liberative.tripod.com or
by clicking http://liberative.tripod.com/MarigoldsMoles.pdf
I hope you will have time to relax and read this fabulous story.
For the first, click http://liberative.tripod.com/TwoPrinces.pdf


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